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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 11:14pm on 22/08/2006
I understand your point. I think as a safeguard, citizens should not only have access to the police cameras, but the records of what the police are looking at.
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posted by [identity profile] knaveofhearts.livejournal.com at 11:24pm on 22/08/2006
Does your dominion use the jury system? Ubiquitious access to these records means that no jury pool will be clean and defense attorneys will spend all their time saying "don't believe your eyes"...

I especially like these discussions because they're not really about rogue states or dominions but really about politics here and now, too.
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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 03:56pm on 23/08/2006
I'm not certain. If I join the UN, it seems that I am required to do so (as per UN Resolution 47: Definition of a Fair Trial). I recognize that the jury system can be seen as a check on government power, but government transparancy could also be a check on government power. A judge as finder-of-fact could himself be subject to public surveillance during the commission of his duties.

I might have to decline membership in the UN if I choose to eschew the jury-trial system. Is it just to entrust a citizen's freedom to the measured judgement of twelve people who couldn't get out of jury duty?
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posted by [identity profile] darkcryst.livejournal.com at 12:30am on 23/08/2006
They usually do.

I can mostly only speak from a UK perspective - but in the UK the Data Protection Act means that if ANYONE has video, audio, or any data on you they MUST be able to provide you a copy of that data (they are allowed to charge a small fee, but the fee is limited to like.. 10 pounds I think).

I agree that if it is a public place there is no problem. Street CCTV cameras cut down crime a LOT they also increase response times to incidents an incredible ammount.
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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 03:58pm on 23/08/2006
I agree that if it is a public place there is no problem. Street CCTV cameras cut down crime a LOT they also increase response times to incidents an incredible amount.
If you consider that response time in Oakland is already pretty laughable, then what have we to fear?
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posted by [identity profile] darkcryst.livejournal.com at 05:45pm on 23/08/2006
lol, not a lot. Good CCTV cameras also act as a visual deterent too.
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