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Cancer Sufferer Demands Euthanasia Bill

The Issue:

Dorothy Terwilliger lies immobilized in a hospital bed, unable to move. She has end-stage cancer, and wishes to end her struggle against death. However, laws prevent her doctors from obeying her wishes.

The Debate:
  1. Dorothy and her family are campaigning for a "Dying with Dignity" bill, to change this situation. She implores the government to legalize euthanasia.
  2. "I understand this is a very difficult time for these people," says freelance medical writer Buy Wall. "But the solution is not to let our medical system slide down the slippery slope of killing people in pain. We must cure, not kill. This is not the right time for euthanasia."
  3. "I agree, but go further: there is never a right time for euthanasia," says Bishop Roger Falopian. "The lives we lead are given to us by the grace of God, and he decides when they end. It is not for us to question God's divine purpose, no matter how odd or screwed-up it may seem."
The Government Position:
The government has yet to formalize a position on this issue.

My thoughts:
While on one hand, I like the idea of reduced suffering, I'm not certain that I want to place the power of ending life in the hands of physicians. Were this an assisted suicied debate, it would be much easier to support. As it is, I'm leaning toward either 'not the time right now', or just dismissing the issue. Of course, this leaves Dorothy to suffer. As for the Bishop's position, I don't want religion involved with government, for so very many reasons.

What do y'all think?
There are 10 comments on this entry. (Reply.)
 
posted by [identity profile] sylphslider.livejournal.com at 02:59pm on 22/08/2006
This is an assisted suicide debate; Dorothy is asking for the bill.

Issue #2 is illogical. It's based on the slippery-slope argument and as such is unsound. Your options are #1 and #3.

If you go with #3, you're going to have some interesting repercussions since it's all religious.

It's time to ask the question - WWBD? :)
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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 09:59pm on 22/08/2006
Merriam-Webster defines euthanasia as the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy.

In this case, M. Terwilliger is asking for the law, but a law allowing euthanasia seems distinct to me from allowing people to assist one in taking one's own life. In euthanasia, the definition of 'mercy' is up to the person committing the act.

If M. Terwilliger were to ask for protection from prosecution of those who assisted her in preparing the means for her to take her own life, I wouldn't hesitate to sign it into law. To my mind, euthanasia is a horse of a different color.
 
posted by [identity profile] changinganswers.livejournal.com at 04:17pm on 22/08/2006
Why do we believe it is kind and the 'right thing to do' to euthanize our beloved pets when they are sick, in pain and there is no hope left for recovery, but not our family members? Does God or anyone really want us to keep someone with bone cancer doped up on morphine so they don't feel the pain each time one of their bones break when they shift slightly in their bed? I think we should respect people's wishes, but there should be a lot of controls and safeguards.
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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 10:04pm on 22/08/2006
People - sapient. Animals - not sapient.

I feel that if M. Terwilliger were petitioning to take her own life, I'd help her in a heartbeat. One of the primary safeguards must be that the patient wishing to die must be able to administer the lethal dose to themselves, even if that is by means of an elaborate device that just allows them to push activate the button on a machine that does it for them. At the critical moment of action, it has to be between the patient and the Univers, with no mediation on the part of other humans.

The law M. Terwilliger requests does not do this.
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posted by [identity profile] vito-excalibur.livejournal.com at 02:56pm on 23/08/2006
Pretty much agree with this. With the exception of people who have been in comas for 3+ years. There's a family I know back home whose daughter was in a car accident like 10 years ago and what it's done to them is now my greatest nightmare. She's not going to recover and yet they can't let her die.
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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 03:28pm on 23/08/2006
That's an awful situation.
 
posted by [identity profile] baronlaw.livejournal.com at 04:31pm on 22/08/2006
Doctors heal and should not decide who lives or dies. Religion should not be allowed to make law or block laws. The Goverment should not be in the death business at all.

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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 10:05pm on 22/08/2006
What about punishment for crimes? or in case of war? or in case of treason?
 
posted by [identity profile] fornaxus.livejournal.com at 06:51pm on 22/08/2006
"I'm not certain that I want to place the power of ending life in the hands of physicians."

I don't see it that way. The decision - the power - to end life woudl still be in the hands of the sufferer. The doctor may be the tool, but the POWER would still remain with the only person who has the right to make that decision.

It is not a decision I would personally make, regardless of the pain. For myself, I would always err in favor of hope. But I do understand the perspective of one who has nothing to look forward to for the next several months except pain or unconsciousness choosing to put an end to that, and to the incredibly steep cost of maintaining his/her life to no perceivable outcome except death.

Also, the family should be allowed to get on with grieving, and then get on with living their own lives.

Naturally, there should be some very specific legal/medical conditions in place for those considering euthenasia. Degree of suffering and treatability not least among them.
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posted by [identity profile] caramida.livejournal.com at 10:10pm on 22/08/2006
I understand and agree with your basic premises. A law allowing euthanasia does not address these premises. Please see my response to M. [livejournal.com profile] sylphslider above. A doctor should not even be a tool. A doctor should only be available to place these tools in the (metaphorical) hands of the patient who will use them as they will.

The law as is proposed is too vague.

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